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13/01/2013 21:53  
Zdravím všechny, po delší době jsem tu opět s párem dotazů ohledně situací, u kterých jsme se se soupeřem nedokázali shodnout.
1. Jak je to s countery, které mají opačné hodnoty na jedné příšeře? Mám tím na mysli, když na příšeru přijde -1/-1 a +1/+1 counter, je jasné, že efekt je nula, jde i o to jestli se oba countery dají pryč a nebo jestli oba zůstávají na příšeře.

2. Mám ve hře Gaddock Teeq (Noncreature spells with converted mana cost 4 or greater can't be cast. Noncreature spells with Variable Colorless in their mana costs can't be cast.) a soupeř má ve hře Arcane melee (Instant and sorcery spells cost 2 less to cast.) Může seslat Day of Judgment ( 2WW - Destroy all creatures) nebo nemůže? ( Bere se jako casting cost ta co je napsaná na kartě nebo ta zlevněná?)
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14/01/2013 07:01  
1. oba sa dajú preč

2. Myslím že Day of Judgement zoslať nemôže lebo converted mana cost kúzla je 4... v prípade že by mu nič nebránilo ho zoslať by síce zaplatil o 2 bezfarebné menej, ale converted mana cost Day of Judgement je stále 4, teda berie sa to čo je napísané na karte
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14/01/2013 07:55  

Ahoj!

Jen pro úplnost:

1. Countery se vyruší v rámci state-based akce.

704.5r If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters are removed from it, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it.


2. Jak píše Orfeus, converted mana cost se určuje pouze z toho, co je napsané na kartě (v pravém horním rohu).

202.3. The converted mana cost of an object is a number equal to the total amount of mana in its mana cost, regardless of color.

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14/01/2013 15:56  
Děkuji za odpovědi.

Ad 1. - Takže proto se hraje Gavony Township v Melira Podu? Můžu tím teda "regenerovat" příšery s persistem, když zrovna není po ruce Melira?

Ad 2. - A jak je t s CMC u split karet ( jestli se tak říká těm kartám kde jsou dvě na jedné :-) ) - sčítá se to dohromady?
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15/01/2013 10:42  

Ad 1. Ano, zní to logicky :-)

Ad 2. Split karty mají zároveň dva CMC. Pouze na stacku má split karta jen jeden mana cost (protože si napřed vybíráš, kterou půlku sešleš a druhá půlka tedy na stacku "neexistuje"). 

708.2. In every zone except the stack, split cards have two sets of characteristics and two converted mana costs. As long as a split card is a spell on the stack, only the characteristics of the half being cast exist. The other half’s characteristics are treated as though they didn’t exist.

708.2a If a player casts a split card, that player chooses which half of that split card he or she is casting before putting it onto the stack. Only the half that is being cast is considered to be put onto the stack. Only that half is evaluated to see if it can be cast.

Tedy v našem konkrétním případě Gaddock Teeg nemůže zakázat seslání například kouzla Boom. Bust ale zakáže.

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15/01/2013 12:17  
A co presne znamena,ze ma dva CMC? U toho seslani je to tedy jasne,vyberu si jednu polovinu a druha pulka na stacku neexistuje. Ale co kdyz je karta jeste porad na ruce? Muzu treba Bust/Boom vydiscardovat pomoci Inquisition of Kozilek?
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15/01/2013 12:48  

Ano, Bust // Boom lze zahodit pomocí Inkvizice. Bust // Boom má dva CMC: 2 a 6. A dle pravidla 708.6a (viz níže) stačí, aby podmínku splňovala alespoň jedna polovina karty.
 

708.5. An effect that asks for a particular characteristic of a split card while it’s in a zone other than the stack gets two answers (one for each of the split card’s two halves).
 


 

708.6. Some effects perform comparisons involving characteristics of one or more split cards in a zone other than the stack.

708.6a An effect that performs a positive comparison (such as asking if a card is red) or a relative comparison (such as asking if a card’s converted mana cost is less than 2) involving characteristics of one or more split cards in any zone other than the stack gets only one answer. This answer is “yes” if either side of each split card in the comparison would return a “yes” answer if compared individually.

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